Thompson Smg Serial Numbers

Hey Limey: Good to see you back on the Forum! Don't count on the SRS online service re-appearing anytime soon. Charlie Pate bailed out of the operation last year and the guy now running it has apparently determined that the online lookup feature was not something he wanted to continue.

I hope he resurrects it, but my sources tell me that is unlikely. The next best sources are the published serial number books that SRS founder Frank Mallory sold years ago. However, I just consulted the 4 volumes in my library and I see that there are no automatic weapons listed there. Even if the service was still available the chances of a hit on it are very, very slim. I think that for the time being you are not going to be able to find out anything about your TSMG's service history.

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For the Model of 1921 TSMG around 15,000 or so serials are listed in 'Thompson: The American Legend'. I know of no other source of info on service history, and none on the M1A1. You might want to try the Thompson Collectors Association at PO Box 8710, Newark, Ohio, 43055 USA. Sorry I could not be of more assistance. Regards, Charlie Flick •. Lloyd, AFAIK there is no comprhensive list of serial number/month/year for the Thompson M1/M1A1 submamachineguns. About the best you can hope for is to extrapolate an approximate date of manufacture based on production figures.

Here's what Frank Iannamico has to say about it, and he's as close the M1?m1A1 TSMG guru as you can get. Per Frank's American Thunder II, Savage Arms made an estimated total of 722,794 M1 and M1A1 TSMGs, while A-O Bridgeport made another (estimated) 110,602 M1 and M1A1 TSMGs, for an approximate total of 833, 400. Discounting Savage's last production M1A1, s/n 1,244,194, the highest s/n recorded 'was in the 870,000 range.' 265.) I suppose you could try to date it based on its features, but even in-theater weapons underwent repairs and aprts were replaced willy-nilly.

(Remember too, US martial firearms typically only carry the serial once, so it's not always as easy as looking at a K98k Mauser and saying 'this part is not original to it as from-the-factory.' ) Your best bet might be to ask Frank directly. He has a web site initially intended for the TSMG (but it's grown substantially since its inception. Download Software Billing Karaoke Gratis on this page. ) His web site is www.machinegunbooks.com You'll need to create an account in order to post (it's free) but Frank, his son Nick, and a host of other Thompson RKIs can probably give you a better feel for where in that two-year window your Thompson was produced.

Lloyd, AFAIK there is no comprhensive list of serial number/month/year for the Thompson M1/M1A1 submamachineguns. About the best you can hope for is to extrapolate an approximate date of manufacture based on production figures. Here's what Frank Iannamico has to say about it, and he's as close the M1?m1A1 TSMG guru as you can get.

Per Frank's American Thunder II, Savage Arms made an estimated total of 722,794 M1 and M1A1 TSMGs, while A-O Bridgeport made another (estimated) 110,602 M1 and M1A1 TSMGs, for an approximate total of 833, 400. Discounting Savage's last production M1A1, s/n 1,244,194, the highest s/n recorded 'was in the 870,000 range.' 265.) I suppose you could try to date it based on its features, but even in-theater weapons underwent repairs and aprts were replaced willy-nilly. (Remember too, US martial firearms typically only carry the serial once, so it's not always as easy as looking at a K98k Mauser and saying 'this part is not original to it as from-the-factory.' ) Your best bet might be to ask Frank directly.

He has a web site initially intended for the TSMG (but it's grown substantially since its inception.) His web site is www.machinegunbooks.com You'll need to create an account in order to post (it's free) but Frank, his son Nick, and a host of other Thompson RKIs can probably give you a better feel for where in that two-year window your Thompson was produced. HTH Mine is a mint/nos unissued m1 with 13*** serial number by Auto ordernance,Would that put it lower than a savage one?Being not up on these i to would like more info. Cheers, Dave. Yes, absolutely!!!!!

Great value for its price!!!I'll second Johan's recommendation of American Thunder II. Without a doubt, it is the most definitive work done to date on the military Thompson submachineguns.the '28 and M1/M1A1, and not the Colt '21s. IMHO, you could equate ATII's examination of the military 1928 and M1 TSMGs to Helmer's and HIll's works on the Colt 1921 TSMGs. The small 'S' does indeed represnt a part made by Savage, and the 'square S' (looks more like a '5') represents Savage-Stevens' manufacture. The little 'S' you refer to 'near the mag well'.is it on the underside of the receiver, on the nose of it, just aft of the grip mount slot? For the lower/trigger group frame the Savage-produced ones have 'FULL AUTO' written in two lines, while on the Bridgeport lowers it's marked in all on one line.

Something else noted in ATII is thatthe Savage M1 TSMGs had 'US Property' markled in two lines (atop the receiver, just aft of the rear sight) and readable from the rear. Bridgeport M1 TSMGs were the exact opposite: The 'US Property' was marked in one line and was readable from the front of the gun.